Students learn about elections in time for today's registration deadline

October 4, 2010
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This post was written by IL reporter Rebecca Berfanger.

Today is the last day to register to vote in the Nov. 2 midterm election in Indiana – it was also the last day for the Marion County clerk to speak with high school students as part of her yVote program about what they need to know to vote, including an opportunity for students who are or will be 18 by Nov. 2 to register.

Clerk Beth White spoke to an AP Government class at Herron High School just north of downtown Indianapolis today about the basics, including who can vote, who they can vote for in this particular election, how they can register to vote, where they can vote, and what they ultimately need to vote.

That included discussions about what kinds of photo IDs are acceptable – the student IDs weren’t acceptable because even though they had photos, even though they didn’t include middle names the first and last name on the ID was possibly close enough to the students’ registered names for a poll volunteer to accept them, and the IDs were government issued (Herron is a public school), they did not have a valid expiration date of month, day, year, just the school year 2010-11.

White also led a discussion about whether prisoners and those with criminal records should be allowed to vote. Of the students White has met with in this class and in 13 other schools around Marion County, opinions on the subject ranged from all people should be able to vote regardless of criminal background, to anyone who has ever been convicted of a crime shouldn’t be able to vote again, she said. However, if someone is in jail awaiting trial and they haven’t yet been convicted, they can vote with assistance from a group the clerk’s office sends to the jails.

She also said while she didn’t mention it to the class, she was aware of a lawsuit in northern Indiana regarding the voting rights of those who had criminal records that could someday change or at least better define the law in Indiana. Currently, it’s unclear regarding whether people with felonies or misdemeanors are included or excluded, only that once someone has served their time and is no longer on parole, they can likely vote in Indiana. The class also discussed how different states have different takes on this.

She added that in another high school, one student said her father was in prison and that during the 2008 presidential election, the two of them would discuss how he was upset he was unable to vote for the first African-American president because he was incarcerated at the time.

Toward the end of the class, students were able to cast a ballot and were given an “I vote I count” sticker. They could vote for president – John Stewart was the Democratic candidate, Stephen Colbert was the Republican candidate, and Jesse “The Body” Ventura was the independent. Colbert won, Stewart was second, and there were a couple write-ins, including one student who said he wrote in “Jesus.”

As for best president, Franklin Delano Roosevelt won over Abraham Lincoln “in a landslide,” she said. Oprah Winfrey, the independent candidate, received the most votes for first female president, with Hillary Clinton as the Democratic candidate a close second. Sarah Palin was the Republican candidate.

The Kennedys were voted the best political family, followed by a tie for the Tafts and Clintons for second (participants could vote for two families in this category) and the Bush family was “not even close,” White told students. There was also a write-in for the Roosevelts in this category.

When asked if voters should show ID to vote, 23 voted in favor, and three were opposed. As far as requiring term limits for members of Congress, it was 20-6 in favor of term limits.

All in all, White said after speaking with classes around the county, the part she enjoyed most was seeing the students interact with each other. This particular class was interesting because students tended to be more open about their political views, she said. A couple students who happened to sit on the right side of the classroom were not shy about supporting Republican candidates simply because they were Republican.

She added that of all the classes she has visited, overall the students always seem to enjoy learning about the election process.

Voter registration ends today, including a new online voter registration option. This includes anyone who has moved, has recently changed their name, or hasn’t registered before.

White also mentioned she is still looking for volunteers to work the polls on Election Day – including high school students who are 16 or 17 with at least a 3.0 GPA and with permission from their school and their parents or guardians. For anyone else who would like to volunteer to work the polls, they need to be a registered voter, reside in the county where they want to work, and must go through training. More information about participating in the voting process is available on the clerk’s website, or on the Indiana Secretary of State’s Election Division website.

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  1. I have been on this program while on parole from 2011-2013. No person should be forced mentally to share private details of their personal life with total strangers. Also giving permission for a mental therapist to report to your parole agent that your not participating in group therapy because you don't have the financial mean to be in the group therapy. I was personally singled out and sent back three times for not having money and also sent back within the six month when you aren't to be sent according to state law. I will work to het this INSOMM's removed from this state. I also had twelve or thirteen parole agents with a fifteen month period. Thanks for your time.

  2. Our nation produces very few jurists of the caliber of Justice DOUGLAS and his peers these days. Here is that great civil libertarian, who recognized government as both a blessing and, when corrupted by ideological interests, a curse: "Once the investigator has only the conscience of government as a guide, the conscience can become ‘ravenous,’ as Cromwell, bent on destroying Thomas More, said in Bolt, A Man For All Seasons (1960), p. 120. The First Amendment mirrors many episodes where men, harried and harassed by government, sought refuge in their conscience, as these lines of Thomas More show: ‘MORE: And when we stand before God, and you are sent to Paradise for doing according to your conscience, *575 and I am damned for not doing according to mine, will you come with me, for fellowship? ‘CRANMER: So those of us whose names are there are damned, Sir Thomas? ‘MORE: I don't know, Your Grace. I have no window to look into another man's conscience. I condemn no one. ‘CRANMER: Then the matter is capable of question? ‘MORE: Certainly. ‘CRANMER: But that you owe obedience to your King is not capable of question. So weigh a doubt against a certainty—and sign. ‘MORE: Some men think the Earth is round, others think it flat; it is a matter capable of question. But if it is flat, will the King's command make it round? And if it is round, will the King's command flatten it? No, I will not sign.’ Id., pp. 132—133. DOUGLAS THEN WROTE: Where government is the Big Brother,11 privacy gives way to surveillance. **909 But our commitment is otherwise. *576 By the First Amendment we have staked our security on freedom to promote a multiplicity of ideas, to associate at will with kindred spirits, and to defy governmental intrusion into these precincts" Gibson v. Florida Legislative Investigation Comm., 372 U.S. 539, 574-76, 83 S. Ct. 889, 908-09, 9 L. Ed. 2d 929 (1963) Mr. Justice DOUGLAS, concurring. I write: Happy Memorial Day to all -- God please bless our fallen who lived and died to preserve constitutional governance in our wonderful series of Republics. And God open the eyes of those government officials who denounce the constitutions of these Republics by arbitrary actions arising out capricious motives.

  3. From back in the day before secularism got a stranglehold on Hoosier jurists comes this great excerpt via Indiana federal court judge Allan Sharp, dedicated to those many Indiana government attorneys (with whom I have dealt) who count the law as a mere tool, an optional tool that is not to be used when political correctness compels a more acceptable result than merely following the path that the law directs: ALLEN SHARP, District Judge. I. In a scene following a visit by Henry VIII to the home of Sir Thomas More, playwriter Robert Bolt puts the following words into the mouths of his characters: Margaret: Father, that man's bad. MORE: There is no law against that. ROPER: There is! God's law! MORE: Then God can arrest him. ROPER: Sophistication upon sophistication! MORE: No, sheer simplicity. The law, Roper, the law. I know what's legal not what's right. And I'll stick to what's legal. ROPER: Then you set man's law above God's! MORE: No, far below; but let me draw your attention to a fact I'm not God. The currents and eddies of right and wrong, which you find such plain sailing, I can't navigate. I'm no voyager. But in the thickets of law, oh, there I'm a forester. I doubt if there's a man alive who could follow me there, thank God... ALICE: (Exasperated, pointing after Rich) While you talk, he's gone! MORE: And go he should, if he was the Devil himself, until he broke the law! ROPER: So now you'd give the Devil benefit of law! MORE: Yes. What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil? ROPER: I'd cut down every law in England to do that! MORE: (Roused and excited) Oh? (Advances on Roper) And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned round on you where would you hide, Roper, the laws being flat? (He leaves *1257 him) This country's planted thick with laws from coast to coast man's laws, not God's and if you cut them down and you're just the man to do it d'you really think you would stand upright in the winds that would blow then? (Quietly) Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake. ROPER: I have long suspected this; this is the golden calf; the law's your god. MORE: (Wearily) Oh, Roper, you're a fool, God's my god... (Rather bitterly) But I find him rather too (Very bitterly) subtle... I don't know where he is nor what he wants. ROPER: My God wants service, to the end and unremitting; nothing else! MORE: (Dryly) Are you sure that's God! He sounds like Moloch. But indeed it may be God And whoever hunts for me, Roper, God or Devil, will find me hiding in the thickets of the law! And I'll hide my daughter with me! Not hoist her up the mainmast of your seagoing principles! They put about too nimbly! (Exit More. They all look after him). Pgs. 65-67, A MAN FOR ALL SEASONS A Play in Two Acts, Robert Bolt, Random House, New York, 1960. Linley E. Pearson, Atty. Gen. of Indiana, Indianapolis, for defendants. Childs v. Duckworth, 509 F. Supp. 1254, 1256 (N.D. Ind. 1981) aff'd, 705 F.2d 915 (7th Cir. 1983)

  4. "Meanwhile small- and mid-size firms are getting squeezed and likely will not survive unless they become a boutique firm." I've been a business attorney in small, and now mid-size firm for over 30 years, and for over 30 years legal consultants have been preaching this exact same mantra of impending doom for small and mid-sized firms -- verbatim. This claim apparently helps them gin up merger opportunities from smaller firms who become convinced that they need to become larger overnight. The claim that large corporations are interested in cost-saving and efficiency has likewise been preached for decades, and is likewise bunk. If large corporations had any real interest in saving money they wouldn't use large law firms whose rates are substantially higher than those of high-quality mid-sized firms.

  5. The family is the foundation of all human government. That is the Grand Design. Modern governments throw off this Design and make bureaucratic war against the family, as does Hollywood and cultural elitists such as third wave feminists. Since WWII we have been on a ship of fools that way, with both the elite and government and their social engineering hacks relentlessly attacking the very foundation of social order. And their success? See it in the streets of Fergusson, on the food stamp doles (mostly broken families)and in the above article. Reject the Grand Design for true social function, enter the Glorious State to manage social dysfunction. Our Brave New World will be a prison camp, and we will welcome it as the only way to manage given the anarchy without it.

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