Looking at law students' experiences

January 24, 2012
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Law school students aren’t interacting much with international students, something that may hurt them as they prepare for a more internationally diverse environment.

Legal educators have a pretty valuable resource when it comes to finding how law students feel about their learning experience – the Law School Survey of Student Engagement, produced in Bloomington, Ind.

The Law School Survey of Student Engagement recently released its 2011 survey results of more than 33,000 law students at participating schools and focused this year’s report on the paths one can take in legal education. The report looks specifically at how studying part time changes the student experience; are students well-served by transferring to a new law school; and how is the experience of juris doctor students transformed by having international graduate law students in their schools?

Regarding part-time students, the report found that those students appear to be at least as satisfied with the law school experience as their full-time counterparts. Part-time students spent less time on co-curricular activities, but spent the same amount of time studying and preparing for class as full-time students.

“Of particular note, part-time students were less likely to participate in pro bono or clinical activities as part of a course. While this may be expected, it raises important questions about substantive differences in learning opportunities for part-time and full-time students, especially given the highly beneficial nature of clinics and collaborative work for students,” the report says.

Just like with part-time students, the study found that transfer students are less likely than others to participate in law journal, moot court and law school organizations, as well as pro bono activities. The study also found that transfer students have significantly lower undergraduate grade point averages and LSAT scores than other students at the same schools, but they work hard to prove themselves once they are in their new law school. In 2011, just 3 percent of 2L and 3L students in the LSSSE sample of U.S. law schools were transfer students.

Finally, the report takes a look at globalization and the law school experience. The study reports that overall, law students had limited interaction with international graduate law students, which the LSSSE believes is a lost opportunity for U.S. students to prepare themselves for the global economy.

You can view the survey results on the group’s website. The LSSSE is part of Indiana University’s Center for Postsecondary Research, which is a part of the School of Education that studies the student experience.
 

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  1. This is the dissent discussed in the comment below. See comments on that story for an amazing discussion of likely judicial corruption of some kind, the rejection of the rule of law at the very least. http://www.theindianalawyer.com/justices-deny-transfer-to-child-custody-case/PARAMS/article/42774#comment

  2. That means much to me, thank you. My own communion, to which I came in my 30's from a protestant evangelical background, refuses to so affirm me, the Bishop's courtiers all saying, when it matters, that they defer to the state, and trust that the state would not be wrong as to me. (LIttle did I know that is the most common modernist catholic position on the state -- at least when the state acts consistent with the philosophy of the democrat party). I asked my RCC pastor to stand with me before the Examiners after they demanded that I disavow God's law on the record .... he refused, saying the Bishop would not allow it. I filed all of my file in the open in federal court so the Bishop's men could see what had been done ... they refused to look. (But the 7th Cir and federal judge Theresa Springmann gave me the honor of admission after so reading, even though ISC had denied me, rendering me a very rare bird). Such affirmation from a fellow believer as you have done here has been rare for me, and that dearth of solidarity, and the economic pain visited upon my wife and five children, have been the hardest part of the struggle. They did indeed banish me, for life, and so, in substance did the the Diocese, which treated me like a pariah, but thanks to this ezine ... and this is simply amazing to me .... because of this ezine I am not silenced. This ezine allowing us to speak to the corruption that the former chief "justice" left behind, yet embedded in his systems when he retired ... the openness to discuss that corruption (like that revealed in the recent whistleblowing dissent by courageous Justice David and fresh breath of air Chief Justice Rush,) is a great example of the First Amendment at work. I will not be silenced as long as this tree falling in the wood can be heard. The Hoosier Judiciary has deep seated problems, generational corruption, ideological corruption. Many cases demonstrate this. It must be spotlighted. The corrupted system has no hold on me now, none. I have survived their best shots. It is now my time to not be silent. To the Glory of God, and for the good of man's law. (It almost always works that way as to the true law, as I explained the bar examiners -- who refused to follow even their own statutory law and violated core organic law when banishing me for life -- actually revealing themselves to be lawless.)

  3. to answer your questions, you would still be practicing law and its very sad because we need lawyers like you to stand up for the little guy who have no voice. You probably were a threat to them and they didnt know how to handle the truth and did not want anyone to "rock the boat" so instead of allowing you to keep praticing they banished you, silenced you , the cowards that they are.

  4. His brother was a former prosecuting attorney for Crawford County, disiplined for stealing law books after his term, and embezzeling funds from family and clients. Highly functional family great morals and values...

  5. Wondering if the father was a Lodge member?

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